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Dirty Greek - If Obama Is A Socialist, So Is McCain
  Politics : If Obama Is A Socialist, So Is McCain
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Let's talk more about this "Socialism" word that's been bandied about so much lately. Redistribution is one socialist tenet, but saying that someone is a member of group X for sharing one belief with that group is like calling a Muslim a Christian because "The belief in one god is an Christian tenet."

Can you all REALLY not see that our government is a hybrid of capitalism and socialism? It has been for at least all of the 20th century, if not always. That's also true for every other modern country. I'd like to see you run a country with absolutely no redistribution.

The reason for this, of course, hinges on the fact that money is made up out of nothing already and only exists because of faith in the government that backs it, so money itself is socialist, if you want to look at things the way you are currently.

Also,
"Socialism is not a discrete philosophy of fixed doctrine and program; its branches advocate a degree of social interventionism and economic rationalization, sometimes opposing each other. Another dividing feature of the socialist movement is the split on how a socialist economy should be established between the reformists and the revolutionaries. Some socialists advocate complete nationalization of the means of production, distribution, and exchange; while others advocate state control of capital within the framework of a market economy. Social democrats propose selective nationalization of key national industries in mixed economies combined with tax-funded welfare programs; Libertarian socialism (which includes Socialist Anarchism and Libertarian Marxism) rejects state control and ownership of the economy altogether and advocates direct collective ownership of the means of production via co-operative workers' councils and workplace democracy.
So, what kind of socialist is Obama, geniuses?

Obama is NOT a socialist. He agrees more with socialists on some economic issues and more with conservatives on others. McCain also believes in "spreading the wealth around" to some degree, as does the majority of the country (and the world). McCain believes in social security, welfare, poverty assistance, medicare and medicaid, and economic stimulus checks (even to those who don't pay taxes, I'd bet, in some cases). I haven't heard him make a single comment about taxes being an inherently bad thing, about not wanting to help people pay for food or shelter or medicine if they can't afford it, or about dismantling any government-run economic programs.

If anything, the most you can say is that McCain is LESS socialist than Obama. The only ignorant people in this debate are those who don't see that or refuse to admit it.

UPDATE: See? McCain is a socialist, too. Oh, and the man whose words conservatives ignore almost as much as their beloved Jesus:
"The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. A tax upon house-rents, therefore, would in general fall heaviest upon the rich; and in this sort of inequality there would not, perhaps, be anything very unreasonable. It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
Adam Smith, The Wealth Of Nations
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A great cartoon lambasting this phenomenon on the Reasons To Be Cheerful, Part 3 blog...

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